Monday, May 4, 2009

When She Graduates as He. . . .

Thank you for your thoughtful comments dealing with gender preferences in children. For tonight's discussion, we are going to shift to talk about gender identity in college students.

For HW, please read "When She Graduates as He", an interesting look at the lives of a handful of Smith and Mount Holoyoke students who decided to transition to the male gender while attending historically all-female colleges. Obviously, this complicates matters on campus.

In your comments, I would like to focus on your thoughts about how this challenges (positively or negatively) the purpose of all women colleges and universities.

If you are interested in this topic, the New York Times also examined this issue. However, the student profiled switched colleges (From Barnard to Columbia).

*In a episode of the Simpsons that aired in 2003, Lisa was visited by a ghost from each of the "Seven Sister" colleges.

45 comments:

  1. I think that having students at historically all women's colleges that are transgender has both positive and negative effects. Positively, it helps the communities at these schools to learn to be accepting of everyone and creates a safe environment for those who may feel uncomfortable elsewhere. Also, couple of the schools in the article mentioned that they have large support groups and seminars on campus to help these kids deal with what they are going through and talk to other kids who are experiencing the same. Negatively, it defeats the purpose of an all-women's school. Part of the purpose of an all female college is to eliminate competition between students and to create an equal environment. This gets challenged when some students decide to undergo gender surgery to become a man. In the article, Murphy mentioned that there is competition between transgenders getting surgery; based on who got it first and who is taking more testosterone. Even though there are both positive and negative effects to transgender students at historically all-women's colleges, it is still seen as controversial and can be argued both ways.

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  2. In your comments, I would like to focus on your thoughts about how this challenges (positively or negatively) the purpose of all women colleges and universities.

    I personally think all women's colleges are a little out dated. I dont really understand why we have them at all. I think in any career or most, women will be around men at one point or another and have to work with them. Also feminism is kind of hypocritical because constantly demanding equal rights that are pretty much equal makes it an us vs. them argument that constantly calls attention to gender when in reality it isn't all that important. As far as transgendered students that actually become male, if they consider themselves truly male then they shouldn't want to go to a school where its all female. They should look to maybe transfer. I don't think they should get to be the only males that attend an all women's school. its like if they make the decision to become male and take it seriously they shouldn't get privileges over other males. It isn't a matter of discrimination its a matter of what's fair. It compromises the morals of a school that only accepts women when men are allowed to go there but only if they get a sex change.

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  3. damn. i always write the question so i know what im answering and i forgot to erase it.

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  4. Jack you are the worst. Yesterday confusing race with gender and now this. Wow

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  6. As I read the article I tried to form an opinion on weather or not I thought transmen should be allowed to continue going to women's colleges, and I couldn't really decide. On one hand, it seems to defeat the purpose of having an all women's college. But on the other hand it comes off very discriminatory and close minded to kick them out of the school. And it certainly isn't their fault that they were born into the wrong body, so it seems wrong to punish them for it. But as one of the students said in the article, it would immediately out them to any future employer to see a Smith Diploma with a guy's name on it, or any all girls school's diploma. The easiest option would be if the transman student decided to transfer when he began his transition process, but this would involve leaving all their friends behind and starting anew at a different college.

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  7. I think that in terms of what the real purpose of having an all women's college, having transmen there isn't a good idea. However, I think it's interesting that many women who go to these schools ultimately end up realizing that they are transgendered, after being in an environment where they are, for the most part, surrounded by other women. I agree with Jackie about how women's colleges are somewhat outdated in our time today, because like she said, we're all going to be interacting with men at some point in our lives after college, so why choose an all women's college? And if you end up being transgendered, I don't see why they would choose to continue to attend an all women's school, besides the fact that their roots are there and they have friends there. However, if they're facing discrimination because they're among the exceptions for men attending that school, then it may be time for them to transfer. But I'm really not too sure, it's hard for me to have any really solid opinions on this.

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  8. I'd like to start off by saying I don't really understand an all-girl's college. Like one of the interviewees said, it's not uncommon for a girl to enroll in an all-girl's college and then come out as bisexual, lesbian, or transman. It's like certain sports teams. Once you get to the top of girl's hockey or softball, many many many lesbians exists. Although I initially thought I was kind of split on the fence of if girl's who enrolled as girl's can graduate as guy's from an all-girl's college or not, I think I'm more swayed in one direction now. I think all-girl's colleges are kind of old-fashioned. And it would go against many moral principles to tell someone you had accepted into your college four or five years ago that they did all that schooling for nothing, completely all those courses only to find that they could not graduate would be completely unjust. Give them their diploma. Stop inflating this "issue" into something it need not be and find a hobby.

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  9. Before I began reading the article, I felt that having transgendered men graduate from a woman's college defeated the point of a woman's college, however, as a continued reading it struck me that the fact that these people, biologically woman, can realize their identity while in school is actually what a woman's school is all about. For me, a woman's college is somewhere where women can develop freely in an atmosphere that is free from any pressure from a male-dominated society. Initially, I felt that by having men in the college, that would make the school lose that quality. After reading about the people who felt more confident in transitioning after going to a woman's college, I changed my mind. It would be interesting to know how many of these people would have transitioned if they had gone to a co-ed school - I think it is likely that fewer would have chosen than path. By going to a school designed to allow woman to develop and learn, they were given the support they needed to realize that they were transgender.
    As for whether the acceptance of transmen will lead to a "slippery slope" of accepting biological females who have transitioned already, or biological men who have transitioned to become female, I think that these are issues that, despite controversy, are solvable. If the school has a clear mission statement of in what way they aim to educate women, it should be clear which women to accept. In my opinion, a woman that has already transitioned is no longer a woman, and has already developed a sense of self, and so it doesn't seem like they would benefit from an a woman's school. On the other hand, I think the experience of being educated as a sister at a woman's school would be valuable for a transitioned man.

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  10. This might be positive since it allows women at these colleges to be more accepting of others. It is probable that students in an all women school would be more opened to transgender(transmen) than an all gender school since a transgender stands out so much more in an all women college.

    However, there are some negatives since it is an all girl college. And if there are transmen in the college, it does defeat the purpose of it's original intent. If there are transgender in the college, is it not usual for them to transfer? Especially since they no longer qualify for the first basic qualification-a female.

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  11. Call me old-fashioned, narrow minded or whatever, but i do not think that a debate about transgendered men in woman colleges should be a big deal. Usually i am an accepting person, but on this issue i dont really understand why the transmen still want to be in this womans college? first, they seek for male friends, but they wont find a lot of them in a woman's college. second, transfering in college isn't a big deal, and shouldn't be that hard to do when u really wanna be a man. If one decides to be male, he should go for it at all, leave the girl's college behind, and get into a more manlier environment.
    Saying you want to be male does also insist that being at a female college is actually wrong-you arent female anymore. One of the students said " I personally don’t think trying to pass as a man and having Smith College on your diploma gives you the chance to have a stable career." and i actually have to agree with that statement. I don't really understand why you would like to stay at an all woman's college if you are one of the only males. dont you wanna look for colleges where you can reenrole as a man, accepted and with new, male friends? Is it accepting if you say: yeah, i see you as a man now, but since you have been female you can stay at a woman's college? I think its rather ignoring the real change of gender, because its basically saying: we see that you wanna be male, but you have been female for so long so that you actually belong here, no matter if you believe you are male or not.

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  12. I think the positives of allowing transgenders to stay at the college is allowing the students to be accepting of everyone. It shows how far our society has come with accepting peoples idenities. I understand the negatvie of having all girls at an all girls school. But as Jackie said I don't understand why there are still all girls schools. I could see that another negative would be it could make other students and parents uncomfortable. From the article it seemed like there seems to have people become lesbians, bisexual and transgender, so i don't see the problem.

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  13. I can see how people who attend all female colleges could see this idea as either positive or negative. I understand that by transitioning into becoming a man defeats the idea of an all girl school. I can see how some would say that if you know you are going to want to transition, why apply anyway? But at the same time, I don't agree with that. I don't really see the point of the Sister Schools, but i think if a "sister" wants to make a change in her life while enrolled at the school, why not? Isn't she still a sister in some ways, maybe she doesn't look like it anymore or her/his body parts aren't what everyone else at the schools may be, but I don't see how it really matters. And besides the point of being a female or not, the person is still a student of the school, and she be helped in their post-op time of transition and confusion.

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  14. You know, I feel a bit like a broken record, going on and on about the gender vs. sexuality issue in every single blog post, but I can't help it; people's inability to separate the two honestly frustrates me. I believe bisexuality and lesbianism is fine and healthy for the diversity of a women's college, since sexuality does nothing to change one's gender: these students are still psychologically female, and identify with the unique struggles a woman faces in society.

    In defense of women's colleges, since I very nearly enrolled in one, the whole POINT of having a female environment is to nurture the development of young women into strong, confident members of society in a safe and supportive environment (...wow, now I sound like the LHS mission statement) away from the intangible but potentially demeaning, discriminatory, and dominating influences of males. No offense to any guys, but, well, I honestly do believe that. Sorry.

    This idea of a women's college for women must necessarily preclude the attendance of students who psychologically identify as MALE. Forget biological sex; a transman is psychologically MALE, and though they may/will encounter struggles with acceptance and confidence as well, this is a different issue from a woman's fight for respect and equality in society (which, by the by, is still male-dominated, in case you didn't notice).

    I respect the Sister colleges for striving to create an open, diverse, and encouraging environment--that spirit is the core of a women's college, I believe--but that does not mean they should compromise their mission to educate WOMEN by taking in students who, for all intents and purposes, are not actually female. In the same vein, I feel that women's colleges should accept MtF students, since that is another aspect of womanhood: being stuck in the wrong body. I can only imagine the horror.

    ... I would also try to defend modern feminism, but I think I'm getting too annoyed over this whole thing already. Sorry 'bout the all caps. I'll try to be more chill in class.

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  15. Personally, I am open to whatever. If someone is transgender, cool, good for them. However it seems odd to me that someone who has made the decision to transition from a woman to a man to attend a women's college. It kind of defeats the purpose of having all women's colleges. Also if a man, once a woman, graduates from a sisterhood college like Smith, what happens when they apply for a job? Will this affect them in any way when their employers see they are man graduating from a women's college? I do not know. But where do you draw the line? If it is okay in a sisterhood college to start female and then transition to male before they graduate, is it fair to keep biological males out of the college?

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  16. The postivite sides is that colleges become more aware and gain more knowledge about the transgender community. They can formualte resources to help transgender people when they are in need of conseloring and direction. The negative effect is figuring out to whether the school is co-ed and not all-female school. They have to figure out whether they should accept transmen.
    Candice

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  18. I think that if a student identifies themselves as male, then they shouldn’t go to a women’s college. If they identify themselves as male, they can’t suddenly claim to be female in order to get into a women’s college. Transgender people are either psychologically male or female (the “genderqueers” mentioned in the article are entirely different, and I have no idea whether they should be accepted or not), they aren’t both, and if they live as a man, then they shouldn’t go to a women’s college. That being said, I don’t think that the college should kick out those who decide to become men during college. The college offered them a place there, and they should be able to keep that place all four years. I think they should be encouraged to transfer to another school, but I don’t think that the school has any right to kick them out. I just don’t think the school should be forced to accept people who are biologically female and psychologically male. I also don’t think that transgender people can expect the colleges to stop using the female pronoun and words like “sisterhood” because they are women’s colleges.

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  19. I think having transgender students in an all girls college can be a challenge. First of all, it is an all girls college after all, and no boys are allowed to enroll. However, if there are girls who enrolled, who want to be a boy, that should not hurt their chances of staying in this college. They are who they are. Some of the girls don't feel comfortable being boys and that should be ok with others. What Charlotte said about this being an example of accepting others differences is very true here. Just because a girl wants to be a boy, doesn't mean she should be thrown out of an all girls college. It shouldn't be earth-shattering if there is a transgender student in an all girls school. Let them be who they want to be. From what I am saying here, it seems like there shouldn't be a college for just one gender. If there are transgenders in the college (girls become boys), the biological boys might want to come too, and in the case of having transgender students, I don't see anything wrong with that.

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  20. I disagree with the people who have said that an all girls college is outdated. Although I would never attend one, i think that such a school provides the opportunity for young women to live in an environment where they can learn how to be strong and confident individuals (as June said). I do not want to sound intolerant when I say that I don't think that transgender people should be allowed to graduate from an all-girls college if they are now male. If a male went to a female, she should be able to graduate because that person is a female and belongs at an all-girls school. However, although someone may have been female upon entering the school, they should not be allowed to attend the school when they become male. I do think, to be fair to these men, that they should not feel like they are jeopardizing their education when transitioning, but should be guaranteed a spot at a coed college so they do not have to make such a hard decision.
    I think it is great that a lot of people are saying that it doesn't matter. But if you think about it, the people who enrolled in an all girls school did so for a reason-most likely the reason being because the community was made up of only females. These transmen people are not females, but rather self-proclaimed males and do not belong in an all-girls college. This is not discrimination, as some people have suggested. Is Smith also discriminatory because they don't accept people with a low GPA, or people who are criminals? No, they accept individuals who will create a specific community and males are not a part of the community that they envision.
    And just to conclude, I don't want to sound intolerant. I am not. I accept that there are people who are transgender, but the ones who have become males do not belong at an all girls school. The one who have become female should be welcome.

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  21. I agree with the idea that allowing the transman to finish college at an all girl's school is the right thing. Because they start out as a girl and slowly transition their way to male. But at the same time having a "male" graduate from an all girls school makes no sense. Kevin and Isiah had no intentions what so ever to be females, so they are full out males. That IS a male graduating from an all girls school. I also agree with June, that the entire history of all girls school is to bring together strong women in a supportive environment. Transmen changes the picture because now the school's mission is to now find ways to interact with men within the female population? But the transmen want no ties to being female so they have no connection to their schools overall mission.

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  22. I think that if a female attending a Sister School decides to make the physical change to become a male, and wants to be seen as and referred to as a male, then that person should also make the transition of transferring out of a sister school into a school for both male and female students. People apply to all girls schools for a variety of reasons, but all applicants share the understanding that the school will be strictly for female students. If that applicant gets to school and has classes with, shares a dorm with, etc a person who appears to be male, then that could cause several uncomfortable situations.

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  23. I think it's important that we still have some all girl colleges that are completely all girl. Although it may seem outdated or old fashioned, I think there are some young women who would benefit a lot from an all girls college and it's important that there are options for every kind of person. If a girl starts out at an all girls school and transgenders into a man I don't think that she should be allowed to attend the school anymore. I also wouldn't be that astonished if the transgender would prefer to not be in an all girls school anymore. I think it's important to not make any acceptions and if someone wants to be treated as a male, then the rules should also apply to them. If a boy had transgendered into a girl and happened to attend an all boys school the same should apply to him. As the person above me said, I also don't want to sound intolerant I think that there should be just as many options for transgendered people as there are for girls and for boys who aren't transgendered, but I think that the same rules should also apply to everyone.

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  24. I agree with what June has said on this. All women schools are supposed to be for anyone who (this is going to sound so corny) feels like a women. It doesn't matter what biological sex they, what should matter is which gender they most associate with. I don't think that FtM people should go the women's colleges because they associate with being male but I do think that MtF should be allowed to go because they associate with being female. By having a transman go to an all women school the results feel as if they would be more negative then positive because while the schools appear very accepting, what happens when the transmen graduate? How wil an employer react to them graduating from an all female college?

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  25. I'm leaning towards the "trans people can go to schools for either gender, as long a they fit in to that particular atmosphere" option, although I'm not so sure. Since sexual preference is most of the reason schools would be separated, then that would mean that a trans person should be in a school for the gender that they are mentally. Then again, since they've already seen the body they were born with, and could never cause pregnancy problems post-op, it shouldn't make much more difference than a homosexual person going to a school for their own gender. (Although a lot of people disapprove of that...) It all comes down to a matter of appearance, really. Maybe people would like it better if the trans person was required to fit in appearance-wise.
    Shouldn't a trans person want to go to a school for the gender they believe they are, though? I'd imagine that would be a great accomplishment for them to fit into a community made for people of the gender they believe they are, unless they wanted to use their birth gender to get into an amazing school.

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  26. I think have transgender students at women's colleges has both positive and negative effects. I think that some of the positive effects are the schools beginning to reach out to the non-straight students, and hopefully the environments of the students will become more accepting. I think a negative effect is that the schools may lose their reputations as being same sex schools. Having men in women's schools may cause the students to protest to make the schools coed. But if the schools are historically for women, then that may be hard to change. People may feel overwhelmed; as if the transgender students are causing so many changes. But if everyone could act as if they're no different, then things may be easier. I think what's really important is for the transgender students to be comfortable with themselves and receive the proper help that they need.

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  27. As said before, I definitely think that all girls schools having transgender students is a good way for people to be more open minded and accepting. However that said, I feel that having transgender students at an all girls school is futile. The whole point is to keep the community pretty much strictly female, and having transgender students attending the school completely counters this. If a transgender student doubtlessly considers themselves male, then they should have no desire to go to a strictly all girls college or university. Since they are considered male, they shouldn’t get to be “exceptions” because that’s not really fair. It just doesn’t make sense to me why someone who feels that way would ever choose to go to such a school unless they were trying to make a point.

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  28. I think having people who are transgender at an all women college has both negative and positive affets. As with any college, one should be able to dicover his/her self. An all women's college allows people to learn to be more accepting of all types of women, straight, lesbian, or transgender. If an all women's college did not allow transgendered women in, they would not be giving people an equal opportunity. It is very interesting how the wording of the Smith constitution got changed from "she" and "her" to "student" because the college accepted transgendered students. Negatively, allowing transgendered students at an all women's college might put some other students (and their family) in awkward and uncomfortable situations as many other people have pointed out.

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  29. the point of and all girls school is to create a comfortable environment for girls to grow and learn in. This attracts many lesbian and transmen. The environment is perfect for women like this. they are able to experiment and more comfortably learn about them selves with out pressure and judgments from men. On the other hand having a transman in a school created for all girls defeats the purpose of the intended classroom environment. All girls schools were created because of their accepting environment. The atmosphere of a class of all girls is very different than when there is a male in the mix. Although all girl schools are the perfect setting for a girl to transition into a man it defeated the purpose of an all girls school for the rest of the class. Is this the end of all girls schools?

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  30. I find it interesting that this is such a common occurrence at these all women colleges. I don't really have a stance on the issue, I'm not sure if it is a good or bad thing for transgendered people to be at a school that is for women, if they are transitioning to being men. I don't think they should be kicked out, but it's interesting that people who are living as males would want to stay at an all female college. I think it would make things more difficult, because the point of these schools is to be for women. I think it can be positive in helping people understand people who are transgendered better, at these schools. I'm not really sure about what I think about this, but I think the way the schools are handling the transgendered students is good, that they are trying to be accepting and supportive of these students.

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  31. I think having transgendered people at an all-girls college has both positive and negative affects. Allowing people to express themselves in the way they want has continually been a goal of colleges across the country. Cutting down on those rights would spark unhappiness and revolts in the colleges. However, the point of all girl colleges is to provide a learning environment for women with less social distractions. If transgendered men were allowed to stay in the college then where is the line drawn? Like the article stated, can women who changed gender in high school still apply to an all-girls college? I personally think that allowing transgendered people into an all girls-college is not terrible because it promotes freedom of expression, however I do understand the other side of the argument.

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  32. I'm really sumped on this one. On one hand there is fact that it is an all women's school, so having transgender students would somewhat defeat it's purpose. But if people use that as an excuse for kicking someone out of college, then it comes off as prejudice. It is not the colleges fault that these girls were born into the wrong body, but it does cause contraversy. Then there is the problem of having a male with a degree from an all girls school. It will probably cause conflict and speculation if that person wants to get a job. I think the best thing for transgenders to do is transfer schools before they start their transformation, but then they are leaving all their friends behind.

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  33. This is really hard;

    It's such a close call. On one hand, it's great that FTM students at all women's colleges are recognized by institutions, and that they feel safe asserting their identity as male and being able to comfortably transition into a male lifestyle, but there's also the question of the meaning of a women's college... which is supposed to be for women. But when MTF's suddenly don't "count" as women, that seems unfair as well. It's a difficult situation when an administration aims to uphold a tradition of gender exclusive admissions at the same time as promoting freedom of gender identity, expression, and fluidity. Who knows..

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  34. The sort of situations posed by "When She Graduates as He" certainly pose some adverse challenges for all-female colleges. Already these institutions have made changes to their schools in order to accommodate the increasing number of transmen, but this may just be the beginning. Ultimately if the number of transmen in these colleges continues to grow (and I feel it will), the institutions may break down into tradition vs. reform conflicts. These sort of ideological conflicts can be very dangerous to the environment and well-being of the student body, as it can result in entire groups of individuals just picking up their things and leaving. This would not only harm the moral of the school's student body, but also its financial situation and its nationwide reputation. As noted, relationships in the schools are already strained as these college minds come from a variety of backgrounds and have very varied ideas of what the purpose of an all-women's school should be. The only clear option for the colleges is to try to keep all sides of the debate satisfied, and try to delay trouble for as long as possible.

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  35. I felt that the most interesting point raised in the articles is the necessity for a community or open forum for ideas about gender and transgender issues on campus. There are going to be difficulties trying to get information out to extremely small minorities at these schools and this becomes more pronounced at smaller schools as the article suggested. Almost all the transgender students cited the need for a place where they could talk about their gender and if the school has difficulty creating that place, then they are going to make these students feel unwanted. I feel that there is no reason for the schools not to allow the transgendered students to study there and graduate. In the second article a FTM student described how he wanted to be friends with more men and I think it would be interesting to see some sort of statistic on just how many transgendered students transfer out of all girls schools for this reason.

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  36. I think that hosting transmen at all-female colleges completely defeats the point of the college being all-female. Even if someone is biologically female, by identifying themselves as male and undergoing the process of becoming male, they are essentially no longer female. The Sister Schools were established for women, and there are some people out there who specifically want to go to a women's college. If transmen are attending, those colleges would no longer be all-female, but co-ed.

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  37. I think that the purpose of women's colleges in general, was historically to make it possible for women to get just as good of an education as men. Today, I think the purpose it more to eliminate distractions and create an environment where women feel empowered to say what they feel. I don't really think that that purpose is challenged by having female students who have become male or transgender. I also don't think it's avoidable. At any college you choose to go to, chances are there's going to be somebody there who makes a similar choice. It's not fair to deny a person their education because they made a personal decision that separated them from society. In fact, I think doing so would go against the whole principle of a women's college.

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  38. I think it negatively impacts the purpose of all women's schools. The dynamic of male-female relationships enter any setting where both males and females are present. This is not necessarily a detracting aspect of a situation, but it does shift academics, sports, whatever activity is being discussed. Single sex schools take that dynamic out of the environment so that academics becomes the sole focus. With men at the school the characteristics of a diverse school manifests no matter what. The idea of male-female-relationship-free education (with learning as the more central focus) is compromised, which is a basis of an all woman's school.

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  39. I feel that the main goal for an all girls school is to help make women feel more independent and confident as members of society. And I feel that by allowing a transgender, who originally enrolled as a female but is now a male, to continue to attend the school, is reversing the who point of an all girls college. If the transgender chooses to identify as male they should be willing to be treated as a male as well. I just feel that this issue is bound to create a highly opinionated controversy at a college such as Mt. Holyoke, and in the long run it might not turn out well for the student.

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  40. I strongly believe that if I were a student who intended to go to an all women's school, and a female decided to transition into a male while attending the college, I would be very uncomfortable. I do not think that the school administration has the right to remove the student, or not accept them in the first place. However, I think that if it makes other students uncomfortable, they should have ways of navigating around the awkwardnes. Students should not have to room with the "male" and anyone who feels it is a distraction from their original purpose should be allowed to change courses or other situations in order to feel comfortable again. I think that it is only fair to accept and allow the student to remain, but I think it is an awkward situation because it threatens the values of the school.

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  41. In my personal opinion i believe that it is somewhat going against the reputation of a historically female college for a girl to go there and then switch to a male. It does not make me uncomfortable but it seems to me like some woman would use the fact that they are female to attend these colleges so they can attain a superior education and then make their switch. I believe that all woman colleges should remain all women even if they were a woman at one point it still doesnt count if they had switched to identifying with the male gender. Also im assuming at a historically female colleges they dont really have coed dorms so a girl that has switched to a guy would be kind of wierd to be walking around a all girls dorm with coed bathrooms and what not.

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  42. I feel like this issue should be based on a case by case basis. It really depends on the college itself, their purposes, the purposes of the person, and how far along the transition they are planning to go. There is such a wide spectrum of transsexuals that it is near to impossible to generalize. I feel like if it must be done, someone who is trans, but remains gender female, should be allowed to remain at the college, whereas someone who wants to be gender male and is prepared to go through the hormone therapy and surgeries to get there, should be seen as male and therefore no longer allowed to attend an all-girl school.

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  43. um i think that its both a positive and negative impact on all girl schools because the positive thing about it would be that the school become more aware that thier are those who want to be different and dont feel comfrtable in thier own skin i mean you gotta ask yourself this..why would anyone want to go to an all male or female school instead of interacting with both sexes? i mean i would think one of the reasons would be because maybe they like girls or boys i dont know really but its a good question like what would cause you to want to go to an all one sex school? that negaive thing is that yes you entered as a girl ad then you got a sex change but its called an all GIRLS school for reason now i dont think that they should stop here from attending or graduating just because she got a sex change but maybe the girls should think about what they want to do before entering a school like that like if she wanted to become a boy then maybe a coed school would have been better....

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